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- Date: Thu, 27 Oct 94 03:09:10 PDT
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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #1162
- To: Info-Hams
-
-
- Info-Hams Digest Thu, 27 Oct 94 Volume 94 : Issue 1162
-
- Today's Topics:
- AM AIRBAND INFO
- Call Sign ID
- Change of address
- Earth Ground (was: ARRL And Gay Hams Settle Complaint)
- Exploring the Internet (QST)
- IPS Daily Report - 26 October 94
- Is this legal?
- LOGIC (Logbook Program)????
- PGP-Signatur in PACKET RADIO
- Philippine Reciprocal License
- PRB-1: Send it to me please????
- Questions on this and that
- Repeater Controller 4 sale
- Spectrum
- TEST MESSAGE...
- The Kenwood TH-79 (2 msgs)
- What is "Amateur Radio"?
- What is my CQ zone number (2 msgs)
-
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- Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu.
-
- Archives of past issues of the Info-Hams Digest are available
- (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/info-hams".
-
- We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text
- herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official
- policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: 27 Oct 94 15:15:00 GMT
- From: pve@dg13.cec.BE (VEKINIS Peter)
- Subject: AM AIRBAND INFO
-
- A friend of mine who works in search and rescue is looking for an HT that
- can handle AM airband xmit plus FM xmit. It turns out that Search and Rescue
- personnel wear equipment on them and they cant be asked to have even more
- equipment in their suits.
- Does anyone know of a rig that can handfle AM transmit and FM, in otherwords
- offer 118-136MHz AM plus the FM band. He needs AM to talk to the Chopper S&R
- personnel and FM to talk to Police etc. An amateur radio HT that is
- modifiable would do nicely.
- Thanks,
- Peter, KC1QF
- pve@dg13.cec.be
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 27 Oct 1994 04:28:55 GMT
- From: brian@nothing.ucsd.edu (Brian Kantor)
- Subject: Call Sign ID
-
- >
- >An older Ham indicated this was not proper.
- >What does the group think?
-
- I think that older Ham has entirely too much time on his hands.
-
- The local FCC office once cited a commercial outfit for identifying
- as K-A-B-nine, when their callsign was KAB0009. They changed to using
- K-A-B-triple-oh-nine and were not cited again. I suspect that if the
- monitoring station can figure it out, it's all right.
- - Brian
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 20:42:19 UNDEFINED
- From: gene@mcs.com (Gene Maletta)
- Subject: Change of address
-
- Where should I write to for change of address for my licence and any fee?
- Email info if possible gene@mcs.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 27 Oct 1994 04:23:33 GMT
- From: brian@nothing.ucsd.edu (Brian Kantor)
- Subject: Earth Ground (was: ARRL And Gay Hams Settle Complaint)
-
- >May God have pity on your troubled souls,
-
- "Do you know why I drink only pure rainwater, Mandrake? ... Purity of
- Essence, that's the key... I have made love to a number of women, but I
- never share my essence with them..."
- - Gen. Jack D. Ripper (dec.)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 27 Oct 1994 00:46:57 GMT
- From: scotte@ccs.neu.edu (Scott Ehrlich)
- Subject: Exploring the Internet (QST)
-
- In article <38mkd9$c6i@shore.shore.net>, Michael Crestohl <mc@shore.net> wrote:
- >In article <38m73s$jut@narnia.ccs.neu.edu>,
- >Scott Ehrlich <scotte@ccs.neu.edu> wrote:
- >>
- >>Greetings!
- >>
- >>I have written a published article in the ham radio magazine QST
- >>(published by the American Radio Relay League) on ham radio and the
- >>Internet. The whole series is called "Exploring The Internet-Part x"
- >>where 'x' is one of the parts shown below:
- >>
- >>
- >>If you miss the series, don't have access to QST, or simply want
- >>reprints, here is the information (provided by Steve Ford):
- >>
- >>Article copies are $3 per article. The contact person is:
- >>
- >>Bridget DiCosimo
- >>Technical Department Secretary
- >>ARRL
- >>225 Main St
- >>Newington, CT 06111
- >>
- >Why don't you just post the articles in this newsgroup?
- >
- >73,
- >
- >Michael KH6KD/W1
- >mc@shore.net
- >
-
- First, that would by copyright infringment. Second, I want people to
- actually read the article in the magazine or as a reprint. There are
- some nice examples and sidebars you would be missing if it were posted here.
-
- Neither I nor anyone else can stop someone from doing this, but I
- certainly won't.
-
-
- Believe me. The series is worth reading in the magazine or in reprint form.
- The responses I've already received have proven that point.
-
- 73,
- Scott
-
-
- --
- Scott Ehrlich Amateur Radio Callsign: wy1z E-mail: wy1z@neu.edu
- Boston ARC ftp archives: ftp oak.oakland.edu /pub/hamradio
- Boston ARC Web page: http://www.acs.oakland.edu/barc.html
- Ham Radio and More: http://www.acs.oakland.edu/barc/ham-more/ham-more.html
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 23:45:59 GMT
- From: rwc@flare.syd.ips.oz.au (Regional Warning Centre)
- Subject: IPS Daily Report - 26 October 94
-
- SUBJ: IPS DAILY SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL REPORT
- ISSUED AT 26/2330Z OCTOBER 1994 BY IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES
- FROM THE REGIONAL WARNING CENTRE (RWC), SYDNEY.
- SUMMARY FOR 26 OCTOBER AND FORECAST FOR 27 OCTOBER - 29 OCTOBER
- -----------------------------------------------------------
- 1A. SOLAR SUMMARY
- Activity: very low
-
- Flares: none.
-
- Observed 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 93/38
-
- GOES satellite data for 25 Oct
- Daily Proton Fluence >1 MeV: 4.2E+05
- Daily Proton Fluence >10 MeV: 5.4E+04
- Daily Electron Fluence >2 MeV: 3.7E+08 (moderate)
- X-ray background: B1.6
- Fluence (flux accumulation over 24hrs)/ cm2-ster-day.
-
- 1B. SOLAR FORECAST
- 27 Oct 28 Oct 29 Oct
- Activity Low Low Low
- Fadeouts None expected None expected None expected
-
- Forecast 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number for 27 Oct: 95/41
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------
- 2A. MAGNETIC SUMMARY
- Geomagnetic field at Learmonth: quiet to unsettled
-
- Estimated Indices : A K Observed A Index 25 Oct
- Learmonth 7 3222 2121
- Fredericksburg 8 8
- Planetary 12 11
-
- Observed Kp for 25 Oct: 2442 2122
- 2B. MAGNETIC FORECAST
- DATE Ap CONDITIONS
- 27 Oct 22 Quiet to unsettled initially, possible active to
- minor storm levels late in the UT day.
- 28 Oct 20 Unsettled to active
- 29 Oct 15 Unsettled to active
- COMMENT: disturbances are expected late today due to a small
- flare on the 25th.
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------
- 3A. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION SUMMARY
- LATITUDE BAND
- DATE LOW MIDDLE HIGH
- 26 Oct normal normal-fair normal-fair
- PCA Event : None.
-
- 3B. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION FORECAST
- LATITUDE BAND
- DATE LOW MIDDLE HIGH
- 27 Oct normal normal-fair normal-fair
- 28 Oct normal normal-fair fair
- 29 Oct normal normal-fair fair
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------
- 4A. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC SUMMARY
- Observed
- DATE T-index MUFs at Sydney
- 26 Oct 7 about 10 to 15% below predicted monthly values
-
- Predicted Monthly T-index for October: 20
-
- 4B. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC FORECAST
- DATE T-index MUFs
- 27 Oct 5 10 to 15% below predicted monthly values
- 28 Oct 5 10 to 15% below predicted monthly values
- 29 Oct 5 10 to 15% below predicted monthly values
- COMMENT: slightly depressed conditions are persisting at Sydney.
- Townsville were near predicted values yesterday.
- Degraded conditions may be experienced on 28th due to a recent solar
- flare.
-
- --
- IPS Regional Warning Centre, Sydney |IPS Radio and Space Services
- RWC Duty Forecaster tel: +61 2 4148329 |PO Box 5606
- Recorded Message tel: +61 2 4148330 |West Chatswood NSW 2057
- email: rwc@ips.oz.au fax: +61 2 4148331 |AUSTRALIA
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 26 Oct 94 15:04:52 EST
- From: deef@ace.com (Deef)
- Subject: Is this legal?
-
- M{>{slg@rfc.COMm.harris.COM}
-
- M{>I live in New York State and my brother-in-law is presently living in
- M{>Colombia, South America. He's not a ham but has a short wave radio. Would
- M{>it be legal for me to make a one-way transmission intended for him to
- M{>hear, or are amateur radio transmissions only legal if they're 2-way w/
- M{>other hams?
-
- M{>KB2PWM
-
- "Fox hunt" contests for hidden transmitters are legal, and those aren't
- two-way transmissions. But, you raise an interesting question,
- especially since it is an international communication.
- --Deef (deef@ace.com) N1JAL
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 Oct 1994 13:27:59 GMT
- From: kebsch@pdb.sni.de (Waldemar Kebsch)
- Subject: LOGIC (Logbook Program)????
-
- Hi,
-
- I have got the hint, that the progy "LOGIC" will be the ultimative
- loggbook progy, but no info about where I can get it?
-
- Any recommendations?
-
- 73 de DK3VN
- Waldemar
- --
- Waldemar Kebsch (dk3vn), c/o Siemens Nixdorf Informationssysteme AG,
- 33106 Paderborn, Federal Republic of Germany, E-Mail: kebsch.pad@sni.de
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 Oct 1994 16:31:20 GMT
- From: jeffr@sa-htn.valmet.com (Jeff Racz)
- Subject: PGP-Signatur in PACKET RADIO
-
- bafpa@infodude.com wrote:
-
- : IT>A ham is only allowed to use "open speech". But signing a message
- : IT>with the program PGP might be ok.
-
- : IT>It could reduce the possibility of pirates in amateur radio using
- : IT>others call sign to work in Packet Radio.
-
- : IT>Any comments are welcome
-
- You should refer to the section of the rules prohibiting amateurs from using
- codes and cyphers in communicating. I think that they pretty explicitly
- exclude the use of PGP in amateur radio.
-
- Just my .02 worth.
- 73...de kj5az, Jeff Racz, Houston, Texas
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 Oct 1994 01:02:27 -0700
- From: dmercado@kaiwan.com (Dominic C. Mercado)
- Subject: Philippine Reciprocal License
-
- To all Filipino ham operators:
-
- I plan to take a trip to the Philippines next April. I was wondering
- if anyone had any experience getting a reciprocal license to operate
- there. Also, if there is a club in the Manila area that would let me
- operate their equipment while I'm there. I'm aware of the Philippine
- Amateur Radio Association. Maybe someone could tell me more about
- them.
-
- Thank you in advance,
- Dominic Mercado, Burbank CA
- Packet: KC6ZCR @ K6VE.#SOCAL.CA.USA.NOAM
- Internet: kc6zcr@aol.com
- dmercado@kaiwan.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 01:25:22 GMT
- From: don@grc.genroco.com (Don Woelz)
- Subject: PRB-1: Send it to me please????
-
- I need a copy of PRB-1 as quickly as possible. Can someone please
- send me a copy via email to don@genroco.com right away if you have
- it. I have an antenna zoning problem that I believe can be solved
- by having this in hand.
-
- Thanks and regards,
- Don
- K9GR
-
- Donald D. Woelz, K9GR Office Phone: 414-644-8700
- GENROCO, Inc. K9GR @WB9TYT.#MKE.WI.USA.NOAM
- 205 Kettle Moraine Drive North k9gr@k9gr.ampr.org [44.92.1.48]
- Slinger, WI 53086 U.S.A. don@genroco.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 01:37:58 GMT
- From: jeffrey@kahuna.tmc.edu (Jeffrey Herman)
- Subject: Questions on this and that
-
- myers@Cypress.West.Sun.Com writes:
-
- jeffrey@kahuna.tmc.edu (Jeffrey Herman) writes:
-
- >>djenkins@jetson.uh.edu (David Jenkins) writes:
-
- >>>2) I heard WB9RUM talking to a CBAGV (I'm pretty sure) on CW last night.
-
- >>Might it have been C6AGV? Or even CB1GV is a possibility - some folks,
- >>after the first exchange of callsigns, may shorten the numeric charac-
- >>tor to just the first two elements: A = 1, N = 6, T = 0 (not legal!).
-
- >What isn't legal? As long as no one is encoding text to obscure meaning,
- >and properly identify with a complete callsign every ten minutes (for US
- >amateurs), the callsign may be abbreviated.
- >
- >What makes you think this isn't legal?
-
- The 10-minute ID is what I had in mind, Dana. But I still wouldn't test
- the FCC regarding this. Along these lines:
-
- Here's a cute anecdote provided by Chuck K5FO: During the late 50's,
- the phrase `Shave and a haircut - two bits'' became popular on
- either the broadcast AM radio or TV (might have been a commercial).
- Hams started using the first part (. ... .) in place of CQ on
- HF. Another station hearing the psudo-CQ would answer with the
- ``two bits'' part: . . and the QSO would then take off. This
- got very popular with US hams but the FCC took a dim view of it
- and started handing out lots of pink slips. The dit dit is still
- retained on HF today - you'll hear a CW op end a QSO with that.
-
- Why would the FCC not like the . ... . / . . exchange in
- place of CQ and the proper response? Only recognized prosigns
- are to be used on CW. Thus, I wouldn't test the FCC regarding
- sending an A or N or T in place of 1 or 6 or 0, respectively,
- with regard to a callsign exchange.
-
- Jeff NH6IL
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 00:33:06 GMT
- From: herbie@dorsai.org (tracy diers)
- Subject: Repeater Controller 4 sale
-
- ACC RC 85 repeater controller four sale. Cost 1000 dollars new will sell
- for500. Works fine, I got new repeater and it has its own controller
- built in. Get info from W2OQK by Email at herbie@dorsai.dorsai.org or
- call 718-651-2798 or packet me at K2APL-4. Nmae is Tracy 73s
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 03:58:44 GMT
- From: tracyson@iglou.iglou.com (Ekenneth Tracy Son)
- Subject: Spectrum
-
- Hello to all. I hope this message is getting out. This is to all the
- hams who spend a good bit of time on the hf bands. I would like to have
- the list of hf frequencies for Australia and New Zealand Please. I would
- also like to have a list of hf frequencies used in England. Please send
- replies to tracyson@iglou.com. Thank you.
- Tracy.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 26 Oct 94 22:59:00 -0400
- From: pat.wilson@pplace.com (Pat Wilson)
- Subject: TEST MESSAGE...
-
- -> Message-ID: <7513-174385001@infodude.com>
- -> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
- -> Organization: InfoDude Com. Palo Alto Ca
- ->
- -> Test message, can I get ONE repsonse, please?
- ->
- -> -Evan Platt
- -> Southern Region Director
- -> Bay Area Fire Photographers Association
- -> Internet:bafpa@infodude.com
- ->
- -> --
- -> ---- Sent by: InfoDude Communications,
- -> +1 (415) 855-9500
- -> Palo Alto, Ca.
- -> Via Major Gateway/Internet
-
-
- Hell NO!!!!!!!
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 04:23:35 GMT
- From: jjmartin@world.std.com (James J Martin)
- Subject: The Kenwood TH-79
-
- Fred McKenzie (frederick.mckenzie-1@kmail.ksc.nasa.gov) wrote:
- : In article <75134283026@infodude.com>, bafpa@infodude.com wrote:
- : > Anyone have the Kenwood TH-79? Any opioninos on it?? performance? I'm
- : > considering purchasing it, and not sure....
-
- : Evan-
-
- : I was waiting for the weekend, so I could go get the new radio, when I
- : read a review here. The article was quite complimentary of the TH-79, and
- : even included details on how to expand its coverage.
-
- : However, there was one shortcoming that stopped me from even considering
- : the radio: the report indicated that it does not have "lock-out"
- : capability for scanning. This feature was supposed to be claimed on the
- : flyer from Kenwood, but wasn't mentioned in the owner's manual.
-
- : There was a rumor that Kenwood had been made aware of this shortcoming,
- : and was considering a modification. If they did, I'd plan an immediate
- : trip to the nearest Ham store! However, it has been a couple of months
- : now, and no further word.
-
- : Does anyone have an update? Can anyone verify the report of the missing
- : lock-out feature?
-
- : 73, Fred, K4DII
-
- Fred,
-
- No modification in the plans for now. Maybe a new radio in the future
- though, with the missing feature. Just to make sure, next time I
- speak with Loren I'll being it up again.
-
- 73 de Jim, WK1V
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 04:27:30 GMT
- From: jjmartin@world.std.com (James J Martin)
- Subject: The Kenwood TH-79
-
- Fred McKenzie (frederick.mckenzie-1@kmail.ksc.nasa.gov) wrote:
-
- : There was a rumor that Kenwood had been made aware of this shortcoming,
- : and was considering a modification. If they did, I'd plan an immediate
- : trip to the nearest Ham store! However, it has been a couple of months
- : now, and no further word.
-
- : Does anyone have an update? Can anyone verify the report of the missing
- : lock-out feature?
-
- Forgot to mention in previous post that Kenwood is very aware of the
- shortcoming. I was at the dinner with them when it was mentioned
- in conversation. I'll get back to you next time I talk to Loren.
-
- -jim- WK1V
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 02:11:00 GMT
- From: clint.bradford@ectech.com (Clint Bradford)
- Subject: What is "Amateur Radio"?
-
- M>Path: planet!isdnlin.mtsu.edu!darwin.sura.net!dtix.dt.navy.mil!relay-wo!relay
- >From: md@pstc3.pstc.brown.edu (Michael P. Deignan)
-
- M>> Somone askes you "What is Amateur Radio?", can you give them an answer
- >>they will understand?
-
- M>CB radio. Everyone knows what CB is. And ham radio isn't all that different
- >today.
-
- What a stupid thing to say.
-
- ---
- * QMPro 1.53 * Time flies like wind. Fruit flies like pears.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 04:30:19 GMT
- From: jjmartin@world.std.com (James J Martin)
- Subject: What is my CQ zone number
-
- David Adams (dave@flowserver.stem.com) wrote:
- : Greetings! I'm not planning on actively participating in the CQ WW
- : contest, but I thought if I heard a CQ from a needed local whilst
- : tooling through the bands, I might pop in with the appropriate
- : exchange...However, the rules specify giving one's CQ Zone Number...
- : I don't know mine (I live in the south bay area in california) if
- : anyone could help, I'd appreciate it.
-
- Hi Dave,
-
- How about Zone 3.
-
- 73 de -jim- WK1V
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 Oct 1994 20:01:07 -0500
- From: dave@flowserver.stem.com (David Adams)
- Subject: What is my CQ zone number
-
- Greetings! I'm not planning on actively participating in the CQ WW
- contest, but I thought if I heard a CQ from a needed local whilst
- tooling through the bands, I might pop in with the appropriate
- exchange...However, the rules specify giving one's CQ Zone Number...
- I don't know mine (I live in the south bay area in california) if
- anyone could help, I'd appreciate it.
-
- 73 de dave, n9uxu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 26 Oct 94 22:51:42 -0500
- From: "Joseph J. Keenan Jr" <joekeenan@delphi.com>
-
- References<37uv1p$gt5@mark.ucdavis.edu> <1994Oct19.112020.11689@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, <1994Oct21.161123.1@mumr2.mid.muohio.edu>
- Subject: Re: Which is harder ADVANCED OR EXTRA TEST?
-
- Carl Morgan <clmorgan@mumr2.mid.muohio.edu> writes:
-
- >>>The Advanced written test is probably harder to study for because you have
- >>>to learn more electronic theory rather than memorize who can launch
- >>>satellites... However, neither of these present-day written exams is
-
- I recently took both the advanced and extra...no doubt...the advanced is a
- lot harder. The extra contained so many questions relating to regulations
- that the extra really had very little theory in it. I am fairly amazed
- at the large number of responses to this post.
-
- 73...Joe Keenan...KB2RCN/ae
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 23:15:51 GMT
- From: no8m@hamnet.wariat.org (Steve Wolf NO8M)
-
- References<kevin.jessup.51.002D3402@mail.mei.com> <FiHNuc4w165w@lmr.mv.com>, <CyAM6E.6zG@cscsun.rmc.edu>
- Subject: Re: NoCal OO goes after Packet BULLetins
-
- >What 'One Way' bulletins??? What this idiot OO forgets is the each and every
-
- ...snip
-
- >David Tiller | Network Administrator | Voice: (804) 752-3710 |
- >dtiller@rmc.edu | n2kau/4 | Randolph-Macon College| Fax: (804) 752-7231 |
-
-
-
- Your reference to "idiot OO" negated the need to reply.
-
- 73,
- Steve
- internet : no8m@hamnet.wariat.org
- packet : no8m@no8m.#neoh.oh.usa.na
- MSYS Mail List: msys-request@hamnet.wariat.org ("info" for subject)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 26 Oct 94 13:38:13 GMT
- From: rdewan@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Rajiv Dewan)
-
- References<389n39$5at@ccnet.ccnet.com> <Cy3Buq.9s8@news.Hawaii.Edu>, <38k0lg$5jt@kelly.teleport.com>
- Subject: Re: NoCal OO goes after Packet BULLetins
-
- In article <38k0lg$5jt@kelly.teleport.com> genew@teleport.com (Gene Wolford) writes:
- >Jeffrey Herman (jeffrey@kahuna.tmc.edu) wrote:
- >: rwilkins@ccnet.com (Bob Wilkins n6fri) writes:
- >
- >: >This was found floating on the Amateur Packet BBS system. What do you think?
- >
- >: I think it's always in the benefit of the ARS when a clarification
- >: of the rules are made in advance to violation notices being handed
- >: out. All it probably took was for a few to stretch what was considered
- >: appropriate use of packet for this clarification to be made.
- >
- >: On the back of our license it says, in part, `Operation of the station
- >: shall be in accordance with Part 97 of the Commission's Rules.' Our
- >: signature on the front binds us to this statement.
- >
- >: If someone has a problem with this OO and this clarification, I hear
- >: that packet might now be in use on the CB frequencies....
- >
- >: >*** Yes, Fred, keep up the good work. I'm glad that you are doing all
- >: >*** that you can to make Amateur radio packet boring.
- >: >*** 73 George K7WWA @ K7WWA.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NOAM
- >
- >: Boring maybe, but legal!
- >: Jeff NH6IL
- >
- >Oh, goody. We can all snooze away in compliance.
- >All bow to the mighty ARRL, (Anally Retentive Regulation Lovers).
- >Beware the dreaded "OO"s, (Kilocycle Kops).
- >Heil!
-
- You have clearly missed the whole point of amateur radio in US being
- a self policing hobby. Would you like ham radio turn into the chaos
- of CB?
-
- Rajiv
- double a neuf ch
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 12:55:46 GMT
- From: phb@syseng1.melpar.esys.com (Paul H. Bock)
-
- References<RFM.94Oct24155951@urth.eng.sun.com> <Cy9A6K.CAM@news.Hawaii.Edu>, <38ktrd$6i5@abyss.West.Sun.COM>
- Subject: Re: The (1929) Amateur Code
-
- myers@sunspot.West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers) writes:
-
- >In article <Cy9A6K.CAM@news.Hawaii.Edu> jeffrey@math.hawaii.edu writes:
- >>rfm@urth.eng.sun.com (Richard McAllister) writes:
- >>
- >>Show me a *commercially* built amateur transmitter/receiver for the
- >>1929 ham, Rich! Just what do you think was available back then?
-
- A lot more than you are aware of, obviously. While it is true
- that hams of that era built their own transmitters as a rule, there
- were indeed commercial receivers available, bought and used by hams.
-
- According to magazine ads of that era, it would also seem that
- there were many "ready-built" components available which would have
- simplified construction somewhat.
-
- Tomorrow I will post what I can find in the way of "ready-built"
- equipment descriptions, which date back to the early '20s, in some
- cases.
-
- >>And even if there was one (which there wasn't), it would have been
- >>up to the manufacturer, not the ham, to insure it was ``well-built''.
-
- Better read the FCC regs again, Jeff. It is *never* up to the
- manufacturer to ensure that a piece of equipment *once installed in
- a station* complies with the FCC regulations for purity, stability,
- etc., etc. It is *always* the responsibility of the station
- licensee. The FCC does not inspect every piece of manufactured
- equipment to see that it complies, it merely tests a sample and
- then depends on the manufacturer to ensure that all units comply.
- If your rig "gets you in trouble" with the FCC you can try filing
- suit against the manufacturer (lots of luck!) and if it happens
- a lot the FCC may take a closer look at the manufacturer, but in t
- he final analysis it is *always* the licensee who is responsible
- (that's why your station is *licensed*, to ensure that *someone*
- is responsible for it).
-
- >Not exactly, Jeff. A "well-built" station can refer to equipment
- >that is well-constructed, but I tend to think it means something
- >more; a well-put-together station. A station with adequate
- >lighting, adequate room, safely connected equipment. More than
- >just a transmitter and receiver.
-
- Read "200 Meters and Down" for a historical perspective on this
- issue. The problem in those days was that a lot of the wonderful,
- homebuilt stations Jeff is crowing about had *abominable* signals:
- Chirp, drift, lots of AC modulation (from using raw AC on the plates),
- out of band (very common in those days), etc. All of which made the
- amateurs look like - well, amateurs! ARRL was so concerned about
- the public image this created (by the way, BCI was a *real* nuisance
- then, as bad or worse then the worst days of TVI in the '50s) that
- a lot of effort was put into getting hams to "clean up their act."
- Had that not been done, the support that the U.S. Government had
- always given to protecting amateur frequency allocations at the
- international conferences (where most of the rest of the world
- wanted to ban amateur radio once and for all) might have dwindled
- and we might all be talking on the Internet instead of the radio.
- :-) As it turned out, amateurs did finally clean up their signal
- quality and operating habits (some very grudgingly, BTW) but even
- so, retaining amateur allocations always has been (and still is)
- a close-run thing.
-
- >Anyway, even when you buy equipment, it isn't the manufacturer that
- >is held responsible for the proper operation of the station; it is
- >the station licensee. In other words, the ham is always the
- >the one to insure the station and equipment therein, is
- >"well-built".
-
- Correct.
-
- One final note: It was in the 'teens that "amateur wireless"
- began to take on a distictly different character, from "wireless
- experimenters" to "wireless communicators." In other words, the
- enthusiasts were more interested in communicating on the radio
- than just tinkering with it. This is what led HPM to form the ARRL
- and establish the first nationwide trunk lines. It was a fortuitous
- move, because had that not happened and the aspect of "amateur radio
- as a public service medium" never developed, there is little doubt
- that the U.S. Government, tired of amateur wireless interference to
- commercial and government interests and seeing no "saving grace" to
- the hobby but merely a bunch of obnoxious, unorganized attic tinkerers,
- would not have supported amateur frequency allocations at the
- international conferences and amateur radio would hve been banned.
-
- Remember that, even in the 1920s, many European countries
- would not allow their amateurs to communicate with other countries.
- One Swiss ham had his license cancelled, his station confiscated, and
- all his logbooks, notes, correspondence and postcards (the forerunners
- of the modern QSL card) conficated because he had contacts with
- other countries.
-
- 73 DE K4MSG
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